On Feb. 22, I attended the Hacks/Hackers meetup at The Boston Globe, “Start the Presses: News sites of the future, told by the people building them.” As you may have gathered from my recent yammering about online newsrooms in higher ed, this topic is very dear to me. The panel lineup was not to be missed:
- Dries Buytaert, creator of Drupal
- Adam Gaffin, Universal Hub
- Andrew Phelps, WBUR/Hubbub
- Austin Gardner-Smith, Pinyadda and BostInnovation
The panel was moderated by Michael Morisy of Muckrock.com.
The event began with the panel discussing what CMSes do well. Gardner-Smith said that while they do what they were intended to do well, they need to catch up to the sourcing and distribution methodologies driven by social media. Systems like WordPress, Drupal and Joomla do a better job of managing content flow, distributing content and integrating social features, but they could do more.
Gaffin said that CMSes excel at templated content but are not good at ad hoc content creation, or pulling together disparate content types (e.g. photos, graphics, text) into a package.
Phelps pointed to a more fundamental problem — the lack of available resources to develop a CMS to meet an organization’s needs. WBUR, he said, has hacked its installations of WordPress to death, but many web publishers lack those technical skills or resources and end up using a product that they can manage but is unsatisfactory to their needs. Later, Gaffin made the point that reporters can’t be expected to learn PHP; they don’t want to know how to make something bold, they just want to make it bold.
Buytaert lauded open source CMSes (and in turn, the open source communities) and their commitment to keeping up with an “exploding” web. He pointed, however, to the need to get better at the mobile experience, since so much online traffic is moving there.
Next, the panel explored how much the expectations of the real-time web have pushed the ways they produce content. Phelps, who offered many insightful comments over the course of the evening, noted that the standard blog post format just doesn’t cut it anymore, since they aren’t able to pull together multiple sources of information (e.g. Phelps’ Twitter feed with the content from the blog he runs, Hubbub). WBUR plans to launch a “mini-post” format that essentially weaves in Twitter-style updates with more longform blog posts, allowing for more frequent updates with a significant labor uptick. “It’s all coming together,” he said.
Gaffin hailed the instant nature of Twitter (see @universalhub), but observed how it is bad at a conversation of more than two people. He pulled up an example from yesterday morning of heavy commentary around MBTA bag searches. Gardner-Smith, whose Pinyadda curation service is employed on BostInnovation, echoed Gaffin’s sentiments and talked about the “value-added curation” on BostInnovation (example) and bringing the community into the content experience.
Morisy asked about the need to control the medium, which I thought was an odd question, but Phelps replied thoughtfully. For years, he said, the medium was the message, but on the web, content can appear anywhere. So he tries to create content that can thrive anywhere, which means sharing blog posts with minimal markup that may not translate where in other feeds or formats, taking SEO into consideration when writing and crafting easily excerptable copy, keeping in mind that bloggers may comment on his content. These may be seen as dirty tricks by some, Phelps acknowledged, but nowadays, content is consumed the way the user wants to consume it, so we might as well make our content as compatible as possible with a wide range of uses.
The conversation then turned to mobile. Gardner-Smith cited the quick jump BostInnovation has seen to nearly 13% of its visitors accessing the website from a mobile device. Our consumption of information is broken down into short bursts — on the bus, at the breakfast table — that helps drive mobile. Buytaert echoed how mobile would be a “very big shift” for CMSes, and Drupal was working hard to do it right.
Transitioning to the appification of news, Phelps derided the iPad-centric publication The Daily, saying it was “ridiculous” to tailor content to one device. “No one group is more or less entitled to good information,” he said. Gaffin noted how to web is already routing around The Daily, with Tumblr blogs sharing the publications headline (and showing that it is not that great). What happens to the well-funded newsroom of The Daily if the app flops, speculated Phelps?
Gardner-Smith is also anti-appification, saying that while apps are beautiful, he is pro-web standards and the open web. The economics of the app store, he said, will fall flat against a generation of users who have grown up with a free content ecosystem and will not pay for a native app that offers content they can get elsewhere for free. The content economy, he said, is a link economy, which cannot be replicated with a native app. Buytaert, while he cited his desire for a “beautiful” news experience, echoed the point that he gets his news from multiple sources, which are difficult to combine into an app.
Moving on to the idea of the walled garden vs. link economy, Gardner-Smith predicted a move to a “branded content ecosystem,” since publishers will need to find money somehow. Phelps brought up WBUR’s tried and true model of asking users for money and “amazingly, it continues to work.” Services like Spot.us and Flattr came up as models for community-funded reporting.
Morisy then turned the topic to the recent Gawker redesign and asked panelists for their take on it. While Phelps did not hide his distaste for it (he called Gawker “dark artists”), he said there were many lessons to be learned from it, including the new emphasis on Facebook throughout the Gawker sites. At WBUR, Facebook competes with Google for top referred. “Friends don’t let friends read bad content,” he said. Gardner-Smith echoed this, noting how the new design highlights visual content and a good user experience. On the new Gawker sites, he said, every side door looks like the front door, an acknowledgment that visitors come from all directions.
The panel closed by touching on content distribution through social networks. While Facebook makes sense for Phelps and Gardner-Smith, Gaffin focuses on Twitter because of his emphasis on more breaking and less feature-y news. Phelps explained how WBUR hacked their story pages a bit so they would look better when shared on Facebook. Why is this important? Because stories linger longer on Facebook, hanging around in people’s news feeds. He echoed the earlier point of how it is difficult to aggregate conversation on Twitter, but Facebook makes it easy. In addition, Facebook places a high value on engagement (particularly likes and comments). WBUR will often tack on a question to a story post on Facebook to kick off that engagement — or even click the first “like” themselves, acknowledging that people are more likely to participate if others are participating.
All in all, it was a great panel, though I was surprised at the omission of topics like gamification, location and curation — particular the lack of mention of Storify, which seems to address the Twitter conversation aggregation problem most of the panelists decried. Hmm, I think we need a follow-up.
EDIT: Video of the event is now available from dcmdailygroup:
You can also read Matt Carroll’s wrapup of the panel on the Hacks/Hackers site.
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